hogan go aheadly, he's worked for both rick santorum and mike huckabee. thank you both for joining me. >> thank you. >> thank you, reverend. >> what ails the party, in your opinion? >> i think we haven't reached out, and i think gale marriage is trending, and for whatever reason, this obsession with social issue says killing us. it was a difficult night, and one of the most popular things i've ever tweeted, and i think this is a harsh reality that we're facing right now. but i'm not shocked or surprised. i knew this when my father lost. i've been ostracized from my party, that i've discussed this with you before. if you're not going to start accepting people like me, this party is going to die. >>> now, hogan, let me first start with the same question. what in your opinion is ailing your party? >> i think really one of the stats from election night shocked me. it was george h.w. bush won 60% of the white vote in 1988. me got over 400 electoral votes. mitt romney did the same thing. he got crushed. i think there are three reasons this thing went so badly.